God blessed them… but there is not excuse for such chain of mistakes -No pfd, or apropriate suit, too much seld confidence, lack of support to such trip in such conditions, …- , and mostly lack of common sense to carry on regardless the wind & sea conditions. Hypotermia kills without mercy.
I will be accused of being harsh/overcritical/coldhearted etc but if you are stupid enough to paddle without a bouyancy aid and spray deck then you deserve whats coming to you.
1st wear appropriate gear for conditions.
2nd Less than 3 should never be
3rd If in doubt, leave it out.
4th Always prepare for the weather.
5th everyone in a group should be able to self rescue.
Its that simple.
Recklessness because of enthusiam is not an excuse.
no matter how keen you are,or enthusiastic,if the conditions deteriote then use common sense, the things you want to achieve will still be there to do tomorrow – YOU MAY NOT!
maybe age and cunning has finally triumphed over youth and stupidity,at least in my case. I have reached the point where I feel naked in a boat without a PFD.
I don’t always put the spray deck on,but I most certainly always have a PFD on me.
I’ve experienced hypothermia in a kayaking incident some years ago off the west coast of Ireland during february.
The difference is having the right gear on you…not on your boat. PFD, VHF radio and full survival suit….this makes the difference to whether you die or not.
God love them….RIP.
7 foot swell? Not enough fetch there to generate waves that high and there is never any swell in Howe Sound. There is no need to lie about the waves height. The wind was strong and the water cold. That’s all. That’s enough to make it tough.
Regardless, they fucked up the rescue big time because they probably underestimated their ordeal (cold water) in the 1st few minutes (over confidence). 2 kayaks rafted together would have allowed the swimmers to safely climb on.
I suspect they were wearing spray decks.
7 foot seas ( hMMM OK ) 84 KM winds. no way that should have happened.
Some years ago we developed standards for adventure races in NL. The kayak event happens FIRST. PFD’s are worn along with at least minimal thermal gear, a ratio of 1 rescue asset to 4 paddlers is maintained.
Conditions approaching CRC level 2 stop the race.
For training your safety is your concern and the law dictates PFD’s
I kayak and I do Triathlons, I know the pull that you get to go out and do this kind of stuff. My heart goes out to them. They died doing the sport they loved. However in seas like that to not wear PFD’s is negligent.
Hmmm, I think maybe the footage of the kayak without spray decks was FILE FOOTAGE. Pretty sure they had them on during the storm… Stickwood, have you ever rolled a double kayak, in huge swells, against 80km winds? Kudos if you have. Get a clue… Shit happens-at least they weren’t sitting on a couch somewhere developing heart desease.
@ntilley88 agreed
God blessed them… but there is not excuse for such chain of mistakes -No pfd, or apropriate suit, too much seld confidence, lack of support to such trip in such conditions, …- , and mostly lack of common sense to carry on regardless the wind & sea conditions. Hypotermia kills without mercy.
@ 1:18 spray deck? PFD’s?
I will be accused of being harsh/overcritical/coldhearted etc but if you are stupid enough to paddle without a bouyancy aid and spray deck then you deserve whats coming to you.
1st wear appropriate gear for conditions.
2nd Less than 3 should never be
3rd If in doubt, leave it out.
4th Always prepare for the weather.
5th everyone in a group should be able to self rescue.
Its that simple.
Recklessness because of enthusiam is not an excuse.
no matter how keen you are,or enthusiastic,if the conditions deteriote then use common sense, the things you want to achieve will still be there to do tomorrow – YOU MAY NOT!
fucking idots! thats all I got to say, sorry you died but if you were not so dumb you would still be here….. RIP
spray decks???
maybe age and cunning has finally triumphed over youth and stupidity,at least in my case. I have reached the point where I feel naked in a boat without a PFD.
I don’t always put the spray deck on,but I most certainly always have a PFD on me.
pure stupidity
thats it no one was wearing a life jacket and probley no dry suit
I’ve experienced hypothermia in a kayaking incident some years ago off the west coast of Ireland during february.
The difference is having the right gear on you…not on your boat. PFD, VHF radio and full survival suit….this makes the difference to whether you die or not.
God love them….RIP.
7 foot swell? Not enough fetch there to generate waves that high and there is never any swell in Howe Sound. There is no need to lie about the waves height. The wind was strong and the water cold. That’s all. That’s enough to make it tough.
Regardless, they fucked up the rescue big time because they probably underestimated their ordeal (cold water) in the 1st few minutes (over confidence). 2 kayaks rafted together would have allowed the swimmers to safely climb on.
I suspect they were wearing spray decks.
7 foot seas ( hMMM OK ) 84 KM winds. no way that should have happened.
Some years ago we developed standards for adventure races in NL. The kayak event happens FIRST. PFD’s are worn along with at least minimal thermal gear, a ratio of 1 rescue asset to 4 paddlers is maintained.
Conditions approaching CRC level 2 stop the race.
For training your safety is your concern and the law dictates PFD’s
I kayak and I do Triathlons, I know the pull that you get to go out and do this kind of stuff. My heart goes out to them. They died doing the sport they loved. However in seas like that to not wear PFD’s is negligent.
You gotta wear you PFD’s no matter how experienced you are! Very sad.
Hmmm, I think maybe the footage of the kayak without spray decks was FILE FOOTAGE. Pretty sure they had them on during the storm… Stickwood, have you ever rolled a double kayak, in huge swells, against 80km winds? Kudos if you have. Get a clue… Shit happens-at least they weren’t sitting on a couch somewhere developing heart desease.
I agree, if they want to take it that seriously, then learn to roll and wear spray decks, they would probably still be here!
That’s why it’s called the Eskimo Roll, to get you out of the cold water quickly!
wow, they were not even using spray decks. Not the smartest chaps, to bad.